{"id":2769,"date":"2009-09-25T17:19:02","date_gmt":"2009-09-25T21:19:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/?p=2769"},"modified":"2010-07-19T23:50:15","modified_gmt":"2010-07-20T03:50:15","slug":"flout-the-individual-mandate-penalty-and-go-to-jail","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2009\/09\/25\/flout-the-individual-mandate-penalty-and-go-to-jail\/","title":{"rendered":"Flout the Individual Mandate Penalty and Go to Jail?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I wonder if President Obama still thinks the Individual Mandate provisions of the Health Care Reform bill <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/livepulse\/0909\/Flout_the_mandate_penalty_Face_the_IRS.html?showall\" target=\"_blank\">aren&#8217;t a tax<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Americans who fail to pay the penalty for not buying insurance would face\u00a0legal action from the Internal Revenue Service, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.<\/p>\n<p>The remarks Thursday from\u00a0the committee&#8217;s chief of staff, Thomas Barthold,\u00a0seems to further\u00a0weaken President Barack Obama&#8217;s contention\u00a0last week that the individual mandate penalty, which could go as high as $1,900,\u00a0is not a tax increase.<\/p>\n<p>Under questioning from Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.), Barthold said\u00a0the IRS would &#8220;take you to court and undertake normal collection proceedings.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ensign pursued the line of questioning because he said a lot of Americans don&#8217;t believe the Constitution allows the government to mandate the purchase of insurance.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sen. Ensign has apparently received a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/livepulse\/0909\/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html?showall\" target=\"_blank\">handwritten confirmation<\/a> ( a copy of the note can be found <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/static\/PPM110_090925_document2.html\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>) from Mr. Barthold saying in part that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it &#8220;Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And you thought the public option was the worst part of health care reform&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I cringe every time I hear someone describe the President or a member of Congress as fascist&#8230; But I really don&#8217;t know what else to call a government that would even consider enacting a law that could send an otherwise law abiding citizen to jail for not buying health insurance!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Previous<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2009\/09\/22\/yes-mr-president-the-individual-mandate-is-a-tax\/\" target=\"_blank\">Yes, Mr. President the Individual Mandate Is A Tax<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wonder if President Obama still thinks the Individual Mandate provisions of the Health Care Reform bill aren&#8217;t a tax: Americans who fail to pay the penalty for not buying insurance would face\u00a0legal action from the Internal Revenue Service, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. The remarks Thursday from\u00a0the committee&#8217;s chief of staff, Thomas [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[43,7],"tags":[781,841,638,857,858],"class_list":{"0":"post-2769","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-health-care","7":"category-politics","8":"tag-health-care-reform","9":"tag-individual-mandate","10":"tag-irs","11":"tag-john-ensign","12":"tag-thomas-barthold","13":"entry"},"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pfpI7-IF","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2735,"url":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2009\/09\/16\/the-tax-man-cometh-senate-health-reform-bill-includes-many-tax-hikes\/","url_meta":{"origin":2769,"position":0},"title":"The Tax Man Cometh: Senate Health Reform Bill Includes Many Tax Hikes","author":"Jeff","date":"September 16, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"The folks at Americans for Tax Reform have examined the Senate Finance Committee health care reform bill announced today and come up with a list of all the tax hikes in the bill: Individual Mandate Tax.\u00a0 If you don\u2019t sign up for health insurance, you will have to pay a\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Health Care&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Health Care","link":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/category\/health-care\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2754,"url":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2009\/09\/22\/yes-mr-president-the-individual-mandate-is-a-tax\/","url_meta":{"origin":2769,"position":1},"title":"Yes, Mr. President the Individual Mandate Is A Tax","author":"Jeff","date":"September 22, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"I don't know about you, but I didn't watch Pres. Obama 's Sunday Talk show orgy... I've skimmed through the transcripts and frankly I don't think I missed much. He really didn't say anything new, he simply repeated the same arguments he's been making for months. About the only interesting\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Health Care&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Health Care","link":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/category\/health-care\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":4154,"url":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2011\/08\/12\/unconstitutional-11th-circuit-strikes-down-obamacare-mandate\/","url_meta":{"origin":2769,"position":2},"title":"Unconstitutional: 11th Circuit strikes down Obamacare mandate","author":"Jeff","date":"August 12, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, based in Atlanta, ruled today that Congress exceeded its Constitutional authority by requiring Americans to buy health insurance coverage. The 2-1 ruling also found that the rest of the law could stand. I'm still reviewing the 200 plus page majority opinion\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Breaking News&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Breaking News","link":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/category\/breaking-news\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":3758,"url":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2010\/12\/13\/breaking-federal-judge-rules-obamacare-individual-mandate-unconstitutional\/","url_meta":{"origin":2769,"position":3},"title":"Breaking: Federal Judge Rules ObamaCare Individual Mandate Unconstitutional","author":"Jeff","date":"December 13, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"U.S. District Court judge Henry Hudson has ruled key provision of the Democrats health care reform law unconstitutional. from The Wall Street Journal: A federal district judge sided with the state of Virginia in its challenge to the health law passed in March, saying Congress exceeded its \"constitutional boundaries\" when\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Breaking News&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Breaking News","link":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/category\/breaking-news\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2550,"url":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2009\/07\/28\/is-the-public-option-dead\/","url_meta":{"origin":2769,"position":4},"title":"Is the Public Option Dead?","author":"Jeff","date":"July 28, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm hearing rumblings from various sources that the Democrats so called Public Health Insurance option is dead in the the Senate... The Associated Press is reporting that a bipartisan group of Senators is close to a compromise agreement that would eliminate the employer mandate and the public option, two of\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Economy&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Economy","link":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/category\/economy\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":4516,"url":"https:\/\/www.jasetaro.com\/blog\/2012\/07\/06\/big-government-officials-have-already-drafted-13000-pages-of-obamacare-rules-regulations\/","url_meta":{"origin":2769,"position":5},"title":"Big Government: Officials Have Already Drafted 13,000 Pages of Obamacare Rules &#038; Regulations","author":"Jeff","date":"July 6, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"And they're just getting started... From Fox News: The Health and Human Services Department \"was given a billion dollars implementation money,\" Republican Rep. 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